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In a recent double video posted at Praisegod Barebones Dr. David Platt is seen at the latest Verge conference speaking negatively of using the Sinner’s Prayer.  Dr. Steve Gaines is seen, speaking from his pulpit, in the other video responding to the use of the Sinner’s prayer.  Dr. Platt called our use of the Sinner’s prayer a “superstitious” practice and said that is was “damning” people to Hell.  He also said the Bible never once uses the term of asking Jesus into your heart.  Dr. Platt even went to describe discipleship in a way that one could term “osmosis” due to his aversion to anything resembling works on the part of humans.  Dr. Gaines eloquently responded with a clear Biblical position in the exposition of the word “received” and how it is used in the Scripture.

Dr. Bart Barber, in his post, explains the sinner’s prayer from the perspective of the wedding vows.  Dave Miller, at SBC Voices, responded in his usual way by posting his “two cents” which in turn reveals nothing but riding the fence between the two positions. Peter Lumpkins picked up these two videos and responded using the very words of Dr. Platt and Dr. Gaines. Trevin Wax tries to calm the waters with a post about this controversy.  However, his post really is no more than Dave Miller’s expounded into a more articulate fence straddling position. Dr. JD Greerar has now posted on his blog the position he takes as he has written a book and deals with this very issue in a not yet released manuscript.  Dr. Greear positions himself with Dr. Platt, but uses less abrasive words to do so.  However, Dr. Greear tries to position himself with Dr. Gaines and Dr. Platt in his position but really devolves to a position of fence straddling also.

With these various positions of others one has to ask a very simple question; Why the controversy?  For me the answer lies, not in what is being said, but in what people are not saying.  While these mentioned above are articulating their positions on the subject, they are not really speaking to the issue of the controversy.

The issue is we have a leading pastor that is promoted within the SBC Leadership by heading up prime conferences throughout the SBC that said the Sinner’s Prayer is a superstitious recitation.  The problem is not being dealt with at all.  The reason this controversy is continuing is the mere reason that this leading pastor is being defended by people that will not take a position in support of his position.  Instead Wax, Miller, Greear, and others who are talking about this issue are not in support of Dr. Platt’s position.  Instead they are trying to tell us what Dr. Platt means by the words he uses.  NEWS FLASH–When someone uses words then they either own them or explain them.  Dr. Platt has preached the message and no one has heard anything from him.  He has not so much as belched since he made this statement.

What step(s) should be made to bridge this divide?  There is only one.  Dr. Platt needs to speak clearly what he means when he called the Sinner’s prayer a “superstitious” prayer used to fool people into thinking they were saved and that it was being used in “damning” people instead of bringing them into a right relationship with God.

Pray for SEBTS and the Families involved

Posted by Tim Rogers on March 18, 2012
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According to the News and Observer, the major news organization in the Raleigh, NC area, William Watson Birch was arrested.  You can read the story here and the media adds a concern about student notification here. Pray for the victim in this situation.  Pray for the other SEBTS families beginning with Dr. Akin.  He is about to receive an avalanche of media scrutiny.  Pray for God to give him wisdom as he deals with this in the public media.  Pray for the Birch family as they deal with this issue.  Pray for William Birch and for his road that begins with repentance and then restoration also, for  his openness to God’s gracious hand of discipline.  Pray for the professors as they will be under intense scrutiny concerning this issue.  Above all, pray that God will use this to bring Glory to Himself and remind each of us that but for the Grace of God there could go you and me.

I am praying hard and steadfast for my Alma Mater.

Pray for Brother Johnny Hunt and Ms. Janet

Posted by Tim Rogers on August 10, 2010
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What an impact in my life I experienced from being around Dr. Johnny Hunt in 1988.  It was in a tent revival that he led that God called me into the ministry.  Brother Johnny Hunt has been used by God to impact my life and ministry from day one as a new Christian and new pastor.  I remember attending the 1992 SBC Convention in Atlanta Georgia.  It was in that convention that I attended the first SEBTS Alumni luncheon and sat with Brother Jim Law and Brother Johnny.  Brother Johnny brought a substitute motion for national Alumni President and I stood side-by-side with Brother Johnny.  Today, I once again stand side-by-side with him.  I am praying for Brother Johnny as he and Ms. Janet work out whatever has been thrown at them.

You can go to this link and see the announcement of Brother Jim Law as he explains, around the 25 minute mark, the situation to the church body at FBC Woodstock.

Religious Freedom Denied in North Carolina

Posted by Tim Rogers on July 16, 2010
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When growing up our high school was experiencing the same things that many schools of the 1970′s experienced.  I remember arguing for the existence of God in one of our science classes.  I also remember that we had the Lord’s Prayer before our basketball games.  I believe I was in the ninth grade when a letter went home that the Lord’s Prayer would not be practiced any longer before the games.  It was then that I was introduced to the fallacy that many use to define Religious Freedom.  This fallacy says that we should not offend someone else by practicing our religious standards.  Well, it looks like we are back at the same fallacy in 2010.

Rev. Ronnie Baity

Rev. Ron Baity was nominated by Represented Larry Brown, Republican District 173, to give the invocation at a session of the House of Representatives.  A session usually lasts one week and Rev. Baity was planning to be there during the entire week.  Read more

PRAISE REPORT!!!

Posted by Tim Rogers on January 9, 2008
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I just spoke with Brother C.B.Scott. He was leaving the courtroom where he and Sister Karen were awarded guardianship of the four children. He has been in this battle since June 2006 and God has answered prayers in a huge way. Also, the church he pastors showed up in force. Westmont Baptist certainly showed up in force to support their pastor. In a day when churches seem to care less what their pastors are doing, this great church supported their pastor in his endeavor. Praise God for church families that love their pastor. Brother C.B. will post on this in the near future watch his blog for the entire story.