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After some searching I found out something very interesting.  Dr. Page sought the advice of Dr. Dockery in the formation of this “group of advisers”.  It is this very issue that Dr. Page seems to be overlooking and not getting.  Dr. Dockery is the President of Union University–the very place that Dr. Frank Page serves as Trustee and will be until 2015.  It is the “good ole boy” network that has kept us from dealing with the issues and Dr. Page’s reliance on Dr. Dockery’s assistance clearly pushes the envelope of open and transparent discourse.

Dr. Page has now formed his committee and it speaks volumes about the problem in the convention.  The problem, according to Dr. Page, is “practical in nature not doctrinal.” Thus, according to Dr. Page we do not have a disagreement over theology but our disagreement is over how we get along together with the different theological slants that drive us.  Dr. Page presented, in this edition of Baptist Press, a more in depth analysis of the task before the “group of advisers”.

With that in mind I want to explore two things the formation of this “group of advisers” says about the issue before us.  It is evident this “group of advisers” will have no authority in their outcome. Also, it is evident that the “group of advisers” is formed to present a top-down solution for the issues before the convention.

First, we have another official/unofficial group of people acting in a position that will bring about an official/unofficial solution for a problem.

Dr. Frank Page

“My goal is to develop a strategy whereby people of various theological persuasions can purposely work together in missions and evangelism,” Page told Baptist Press.

Page emphasized that the group is “not an official committee” of the convention. He also said additional names could be added to the group.

“It’s a group of helpers helping Frank Page come up with some sort of strategy document.”

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We were told at the past yearly meeting of Southern Baptists that we needed to trust the Trustee System.  After that statement by Dr. Thom Rainer, President of LifeWay, I gave a hearty Amen! As I think about his statement and view the recent Baptist Press public service announcement for the North American Mission Board (NAMB) I am struck with where my allegiance lies.  Yes,  I trust the Trustee System, but it is the sitting trustees that I am beginning to lose faith in.

The beginning of Great Commission Resurgence occurred when Dr. Danny Akin in a chapel message “The Axioms of a Great Commission”, (cannot be accessed through Between the Times) and is noted to be the inspiration of the GCR Declaration, spoke of a “bloated bureaucracy”. Read more

In Part I we looked at the issues presented by Dr. Harris as outlined in the Baptist Press (BP) coverage. Now we want to observe the responses to these concerns to see if any deal with the issues raised by Harris.

As already noted BP never spoke with anyone in agreement with Harris. There are many that do agree with him just ask the Christian Index trustees.  Or you can ask those who attended the recent gathering of the Baptist State Editors in Phoenix. Also, it has been well noted by SBC Tomorrow and From Law 2 Grace the BP story was a “news” story while Harris presented an editorial.  The difference in “news” coverage and “editorials” is in the perspective of the journalist.  In an editorial the journalist is free to express his/her opinion concerning the facts presented.  In a “news” story the journalist is to “unbiasedly” present the facts and allow the reader to make the decision.  The BP journalist clearly had a motive in presenting the “news” story without interviewing anyone that agreed with Harris. However, I will not expend any more words covering this point.

Dr. Mohler’s response is a most curious one to say the least.  Read more

When I was in the eighth grade we had a debate concerning the issue of creation vs. evolution.  I, the dumbest student in class, along with other bright students took the position of creation while the brightest students in the class took the teacher’s position of evolution.  We had a spirited debate and it even got, shall we say, rancorous before it ended.  In reality no one was declared the winner but the premature closing of the debate came when one of our students appealed back to the facts that evolution violated the second law of thermodynamics.  To be honest, I did not know what that was but I chimed in with a hearty “yes” when it stunned the teacher and the side debating a pro evolution stand.  Looking back what caused this debate to take the turn it did was due to an inability of the other side to produce the facts that denied their own arguments.

Brad Whitt, in his Young Southern Baptist and Irrelevant article, presented what was called the “shot heard around the world”.  What made his column so effective was the issues of facts.  It was hard for people to deny his facts and also to say that his information was coming from some older person that refused to give up past accolades.  Brad’s article presented facts from a young pastor and no one could dispute them.  Some argued against them and others complained he was not using his facts in context but no one could dispute his facts.

If Brad Whitt’s article was the “shot heard around the SBC” the editorial by Gerald Harris is the shot across the bow of the old ship SBC zion.  Read more

It appears that Dr. Al Mohler has now clarified his comments made at the convention.  Due to an upcoming short-term mission trip to Honduras and pastoral duties at the church, I am not able to dissect and report on his new comments.  After a brief glance it appears that Dr. Mohler and Dr. Phil Johnson are not using the same definitions for homophobia.

However, with that said, I am thankful that Dr. Mohler has clarified what he means.  It still does not give me the warm fuzzies.  Honestly, I do not remember the last time I got the warm fuzzies reading an academic explain something.

This is my last article concerning the question asked of Dr. Al Mohler by Peter Lumpkins.  Unless there are future developments I will, after this article, stop speaking of this matter.  I have presented, what I believe to be, a well reasoned approach that neither takes unfair shots at Dr. Mohler nor allows his statements to go unquestioned.  I do pray that Dr. Mohler will respond to clarify how he sees Southern Baptists practicing a form of homophobia, and to give evidence of past lies concerning the nature of homosexuality.

With all of that said a sad by-line of this matter lies in the coverage, or lack thereof, of our denominational news organization.  When one views the article concerning the seminary reports one will notice something conspicuously missing.  Read more