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SLA5There was a saying that I heard during my time of growing up that still is with me today.  This saying was; “Do not believe anything you read and half of what you see.” I imagine it is the reason I have a more cynical outlook on some things than others.  Reading statements is like getting grapes at the grocery store–one really doesn’t know whether it is practical or not until it is placed into action.

This, is my reaction to the statement released by the Calvinism Advisory Committee (CAC). On the surface it appears to be a statement that we should all be able to rally around in order to move forward together.  Only time holds the judgement for that future as we observe the reaction of our entity heads and those others who presented this document.

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The question of this post is spoken of in the following video featuring  Justin Taylor, Colin Hansen, and Owen Strachan.  I must admit that I am impressed with their analysis.  I also am in disagreement with some of their positions, especially relating to how a plurality of elders will maintain a church for a long period of time.  I must remind them that what they define as a plurality of elders the Bible calls deacons.  However, there is one quote by Justin Taylor that brings out a huge truth it seems many are overlooking today.

“The future of the kingdom [of God] on earth is in the local church. It’s not about [the next celebrity] but rather the ordinary work—which is extraordinary work, really—of pastors, most of them in small churches.”

Watch the video, it run about 10 minutes.  Let’s interact afterward.

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Just when one believes the Calvinist-Arminian Debate is over due to nausea induced arguments, along comes a voice of reason.  In the latest White Paper signed by Dr. Paige Patterson, Dr. David Allen, Dr. Malcolm Yarnell, Dr. Ken Keathley, Dr. Jerry Vines, Dr. Richard Land, and Dr. Steve Lemke, we have a Baptist position expressed by Baptist Theologians.  The point that appeals to this writer centers around the fact of who we are.  Whenever we modify Baptist with either Calvinist or Arminian we just left the central tenant of being a  Baptist-the Bible.  The authors of the White Paper certainly express this truth when they write;

As mission-minded and evangelistic Baptists, we are uncomfortable with moving too far beyond scriptural revelation into speculative theological models.

Dr. Vines referred to “simple biblicism” as the place we should remain with the debate.  With this in mind the White Paper reminds us there is an understanding that we have Calvinist Baptists along with Arminian Baptists within the SBC.  But, as the authors expressed:

We certainly believe that Baptists can be Calvinists and they can be Arminians, but we prefer not to allow ourselves to be defined by either of those great positions, because we see something even greater, something that deserves more attention and requires a higher allegiance. Likewise, theologians open to Molinism, such as Bruce Little and Ken Keathley, do their work with a firm commitment to evangelical Baptist convictions. What we are saying is that our own passion for God’s Word, for Christ and for His Great Commission necessarily places every desire for settling the long-running and seemingly intractable Calvinist-Arminian debate to the side. We recognize this is a debate that will continue to be held and should be held in certain restricted venues. However, the debate itself is trumped by our need to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ, to proclaim Scripture, and to obey His Great Commission. Moreover, we believe our position is the mainstream Southern Baptist position, as Richard Land said in his chapter, “the Separate Baptist Sandy Creek Tradition has been the melody for Southern Baptists, with Charleston and other traditions providing harmony” (50).

This article brings us back to the central tenet that is needed in this debate.

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Glenn Beck and My Uneasiness

Posted by Tim Rogers on August 29, 2010
Posted in Theology  | 29 Comments

When man begins interfering with the nature that God has designed we end up getting things that are weird.  For example the picture on the left is the offspring of a zebra and a horse– zebroid.  Zebroids are preferred to a purebred zebra because of a zebroid’s domestication qualities.  The domestication of this animal is something that really is of no value.  Why? The domesticated horse is more easily trained for various duties than the zebroid.  Usually the zebroid is nothing more than an attention attraction. A zebroid then, is an animal that looks like a beast of the African plains, but acts like a domesticated animal of the US farms.

This past weekend we experienced something of a zebroid attention attraction between Evangelicals and Mormons.  We saw Glenn Beck give a speech at the base of the Lincoln Memorial on Saturday, 8/28/2010.  At that rally, as reported here,

He assembles some evangelical celebrities to give testimonies, and then preaches a God and country revivalism that leaves the evangelicals cheering that they’ve heard the gospel…

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Making Planned Parenthood Proud

Posted by Tim Rogers on August 18, 2010
Posted in BaptistCalvinismReformed DoctrineTheology  | 15 Comments

In a recent blog article my good friend Peter Lumpkins debated infant salvation and the historic view that leads to the doctrine of infant baptism.  The basic understanding of this doctrine is that the elect infants/children that die go to heaven but an infant/child not part of the elect goes to hell.  Thus, the need for infant baptism because that infant in the home of the covenant parents was brought into the covenant through the salvific act of infant baptism.  John Calvin himself argued for infant reprobation, as did the statements of both Dort and Westminster.  Some “Reformed” theologians actually teach infants/children that are not in the homes of Christian parents are not part of the elect.  For instance, popular Reformed theologian, R.C. Sproul, Jr.  questions the salvation of all infants dying in infancy, taking evangelist Billy Graham to task for assuming without warrant the safeness or salvation of all infants.  He writes:

“Mr. Graham reflected the general consensus not just of the world but of the evangelical church, when, in his laudable desire to comfort, he appeared to affirm a new gospel: justification by youth alone. Though Scripture is clear that in sin we are conceived, though it affirms that outside of faith in Christ alone there is no salvation, we comfort ourselves in the face of grim images of the dead children carried from the rubble with the biblically unwarranted assurance that if one only dies young enough, one will be saved.”

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Age of Accountability

Posted by Tim Rogers on July 26, 2010
Posted in Baptism by ImmersionBaptistDr. Steve LemkeOrthodoxySBC IssuesTheology  | 36 Comments

Dr. Steve W. Lemke

Dr. Steve Lemke serves as Provost of New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary.  He also holds the position of Professor of Philosophy and Ethics.  His article on the “Age of Accountability”  was originally published in January 7, 2010 issue of the Louisiana Baptist Message.  Dr. Lemke is a good friend and has articulated a doctrine that seems to be taken for granted in today’s younger pastors.  Dr. Lemke gives a very reasonable argument and Biblical foundation for this doctrine.

The doctrine often called the “age of accountability” is one of the most foundational Baptist beliefs, yet it is also one of the least understood beliefs.  All three Baptist Faith and Message statements (1925, 1963, and 2000) assert that children are not morally accountable until “they are capable of moral action” (Baptist Faith and Message, Article 3).   We all know that individual children mature at different rates than do others, so it is difficult to establish a specific age at which all children become morally accountable.  It is therefore more accurate to speak of a “state” of being accountable rather than an “age” of accountability.  However, apart from mentally challenged individuals, this state of accountability is normally associated with a “coming of age” sometime in adolescence.  The life transition from childhood into adolescence and early adulthood is recognized with some form of celebration in almost every culture.  In Jewish culture, this coming of age is celebrated at the age of twelve or thirteen with bar mitzvahs (for boys) and bat mitzvahs (for girls).  While this recognition is prompted by age rather than personal spiritual maturity, the term “mitzvah” literally means “one to whom the commandments apply.”  After their mitzvah, children are held to be morally responsible for their own actions and accountable to follow the Jewish law.  This coming of age is hinted at in Jesus’ life in His visit to the temple in Jerusalem at the age of twelve (Luke 2:41-50).

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A Review of; Theology of the Church

Posted by Tim Rogers on July 29, 2007
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I have received my copy of Theology of the Church. I did not realize it, but according to Olive Press, it is the first systematic theology book published by B & H Publishing Group. I have not had the opportunity to invest the time needed to dive into the deep waters of this book, but I plan to do so soon.

If you have not received a copy, I encourage you to do so. It is a little pricey, but most academic theology books are. However, from what little I have had time to glance through it does not read like most academic books. It is by no means an easy read, but you do not need to get a degree in theology in order to understand the principles. In the mean time you may desire to follow a two part post, here and here, of an interview Dr. James Hamilton did with two of the three editors, Dr. David Nelson and Dr. Peter Schemm. Great insights for how to tackle the various disciplines needed to read such a book of this magnitude. Also, there are some suggestions of how to implement an atmosphere of theology among church members. One drawback in the interview is where Dr. Nelson makes application by illustrating how he trains his children. It got a little preachy, but Dr. Nelson is a preacher, what else should we expect? :>)

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