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One of Aesop’s fables is making itself known within the ranks of the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina (BSCNC).  In the fable there is a little boy that became bored watching sheep and wanted to amuse himself. This little boy decided if he would cry wolf then all of the people would come running to fight back the wolf.  When the people from the village came running up the hill there was no wolf, only the little boy laughing at the people.  The people told the little boy not to yell wolf unless there really was a wolf but the little boy did not listen and cried; “Wolf! Wolf!” again.  When the village people came back and found no wolf the little boy was warned again not to cry wolf unless there really was a wolf.  The little boy was amused that the people would come running just at the cry of “Wolf!” After a while the little boy saw a wolf prowling around the sheep and he cried wolf, but the people did not come.  When the time passed that the little boy was to return with the sheep the village people came to find him.  They found him crying and the sheep scattered.

In the past annual convention in November, 2011 there was a resolution that came to the floor of the convention from Jim Jacumin, messenger from the Board of Directors (BoD).  It seemed strange that this resolution was not presented through the Resolutions Committee instead of the BoD. However, it was presented to the convention and passed unanimously. As one reads the resolution the second “Be it Further Resolved” saiys it all:

“…the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina endorses the proposed Marriage Amendment to the North Carolina Constitution;”

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Philippians 3:17
17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

As the Apostle Paul penned these words to the Church at Philippi he reminds us that we must be examples to those we lead.  Isn’t it interesting that the Greek word (??????????–symmim?t?s) for “followers together” is the compound Greek word that means “co-imitators”.  One of the Greek words that is compounded is where we get our English word “mimic”.  Thus, Paul is telling the church that they are to “mimic” the actions they see of their leaders.  This same scriptural principle can be applied in the leadership of those we have within our state convention.

We have been trying for years to regain leaders that will lead, standing firmly on the platform, of a position of an inerrant Scripture.  These “conservative” leaders adhere to and promote principles and ministries that have, as a Core Value, that the Scriptures are inerrant.  The conservatives have held a majority on the Board of Directors, formerly General Board, since 2002.  It would be fair to say that the Executive Committee has had a majority and been led by these conservative leaders since 2005.

Why then do we still have churches giving around the North Carolina Baptist State Convention directly to the Southern Baptist Convention in Nashville, Tennessee?  I asked this question privately to some of the conservative leaders of the Carolina Conservative Baptist  back in 2005.  I was told that we still had moderates within leadership and it was causing many conservative leaders to shy away from giving through the CP because the NCBSC was funding some of these more moderate causes/agencies.  I accepted this as a fair reply and was assured that when conservatives were in positions of leadership and could influence the budget process this would change drastically.

Well, there are some things that just do not seem to pull together.  Here is just one example.  The Budget Committee  Chairman, the same one for the past two years and now appointed to serve for a third year, serves as Missions Minister in a church that reported on the 2009 ACP a gift to the Cooperative Program of $122,000.00.  Quite an impressive gift with the economy doing what it is doing.  That same ACP reveals a Lottie Moon Christmas Offering of $564,000.00.  WOW!!  Another very impressive gift with the economy like it is.  What a great celebration of giving we see in this church that is led by one of the SBC Great Commission Task Force members.  We celebrate this giving as it certainly is impressive in the amounts of dollars that are forwarded to the NCSBC and the International Mission Board.

However, the Budget Committee Chairperson has much say over the various areas of spending for the NCBSC and the % split for NCBSC  and the SBC.  In 2008 the Budget Committee Chairperson’s church gave $300,000.00 through the CP.  That means that our Budget Committee has for its Chairman a person who is from a church that gave approximately 60% less in CP giving than the previous year.  My question is not why this person is serving on the Budget Committee, but why is this person serving as Chairman?  I mean, sarcastically speaking, if his church cuts another 60% in CP giving are we going to move him to Dr. Butler’s position?

That is just one example.  Another example is that we have serving on the Board of Directors three people who are from churches that are giving significant amounts of dollars around the CP in order to give to the SBC in Nashville.  Every church, as an autonomous body, funds whatever entity they deem appropriate.  This is not about whether a church decides where to send their funds.  It is, however, about leaders in the NCBSC funding around the very convention they are elected to serve.  In serving this convention these people are called to make decisions that affect North Carolina Baptist Churches but they give significant amounts around the NCBSC to the convention they do not have any direct decisions.

Certainly no one believes that just because we give to certain conventions we should all have direct say into the priorities of ministries.  However, when one is sitting in leadership positions we should, at the very least, see their commitment to the convention through their giving behavior.  I still remember the uproar of conservatives when we had leaders giving significant amounts to the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship and serving on the General Board (Board of Directors). Also, should there be special audience given to one person on how to prioritize ministries?  It seems that is the direction our Executive Committee has taken.  In their recent meeting the Executive Committee invited the maker of the motion at a recent Board of Directors meeting to address them as to the motive of the motion.  Pastor Rammel raised some very good points and I agree that we need to prioritize various items on the Budget.  My point is should it be a pastor, sitting on the Board of Directors, that came from a denominational position but directing his church to give less than the average NC Baptist church to the CP.  I am sure Pastor Rammel is doing an excellent job leading his church.  But, I wonder how many people he has making decisions about the churches direction and priorities that are giving as much to outside ministries as they are to the church’s ministries?

What does this mean for NCBSC?  We call on our leaders to lead by example.  Hey, I want to follow our leaders, but it becomes hard to not question the commitment of some to the NCBSC.  I believe that we have Godly men and women serving on the Executive Committee and the Board of Directors.    I call on our Nominating Committee to present persons to our convention that are from churches that support the Cooperative Program first, then the other ministries that our various entities and agencies promote.  That is what it means to affirm the Cooperative Program as centralized giving for a Great Commission Resurgence.

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When I was growing up I remember hearing a debate on the church floor concerning beginning a van ministry. The argument that prevailed was one that broke my Daddy’s heart. An argument was presented that those on the van could not support the church and thus it was not financially feasible to begin such a ministry. The irony of this decision was that the argument presented came from a man that could afford to support the van ministry and never miss the money. Because he was known to be a wealthy person, he had a huge influence over the people in the church. They decided to vote in his favor instead of taking a chance that he would leave the church.

It seems that we find ourselves in a similar position concerning the Baptist Retirement Homes. At the 2006 convention I remember the arguments on the convention floor concerning seniors on fixed incomes having to be put in the street because we were placing funds in escrow. There were two basic flaws in that argument and I could not understand why the messengers did not see them. First, the underlying flaw I observed had to do with the implication that we had people leading the BRH that said they would discontinue service to people and basically place them in the streets if they could not find the resources for these seniors to pay their bill. Second, is the flaw concerning Medicaid. If BRH does not have Medicaid beds then we have other serious issues concerning the Biblical command about feeding the poor. If they do have Medicaid beds then the BRH will be reimbursed by the government for the beds of the poor. These two arguments were completely overlooked when this debate made it to the convention floor. The only argument that prevailed consisted of the convention, by placing funds in escrow, was placing in jeopardy those seniors on fixed incomes. The seniors residing in BRH, according to their own administration, do not need North Carolina Baptist State Convention funds.

This argument came from trustees of the BRH and others that were concerned by this action. Many were certainly arguing from an emotional state. Certainly, no one desires to be responsible for placing our seniors in a precarious position of not having a place to stay. Some argued in favor of releasing one-fourth of the escrowed funds because that was the number of trustees the BRH was choosing. However, what the one arguing this point failed to note for the convention was that the BRH had already voted to choose their own trustees, thus freeing themselves from the BSCNC. Remember that the 2006 convention voted on a slate of trustees for the BRH and these trustees were not allowed to be in the building at the first 2007 BRH trustee meeting to be seated. Therefore, the BRH told the convention they were through with us.

Please note all of the arguments for the BRH making this move is centered completely around money. Because money is the driving factor, one must ask the reason that money seems to be driving this train. Just a small glimpse of the Form 990 that non-profits have to file with the government gives some significant insight. According to page 19 on this form our BRH President received an annual salary of $258k in 2004. By 2004 standards that was a huge salary, but Dr. Stillerman is a man that serves a huge conglomerate and should be compensated accordingly. However, I believe it to be disingenuous to have trustees that he appointed approve that kind of salary when it is coming from Baptist that make no where close to that amount. If the amount of that salary doesn’t concern you wait until you read page 19 on this form. You will find that in 2005 he received a salary increase from $258k to $371k. WHAT? Do not take my word, these forms were filed with the Federal Government–read the 990′s. At $12k per, one could fund 9 new church starts with money left over. Does one man do the work of 9 new church starts? I do not believe so.

Notice a key administrative domino fell in 2005. Some time in 2005 the BRH trustees voted to give President Stillerman a $113k raise. Notice this time-line provided for us by our former Biblical Recorder Editor Dr. Tony Cartledge. You can see the entire article here.

BRH president Bill Stillerman first proposed a new relationship for his institution in August of 2005, arguing that the financial climate requires BRH to have greater control of its own governance. The Executive Committee approved a plan by which BRH would begin to appoint its own trustees and give up all BSC funding over a four-year period. The Executive Committee reversed course the next month after convention attorney John Small reviewed the plan and said it amounted to a severance of relationship. In December 2005, the BRH board voted to change its bylaws and begin appointing its own trustees.

At the convention in November 2006 a committee was appointed by Brother Stan Welch, President of NCSBC to review the relationship and arrive at a consensus. This committee was formed after the BRH trustees voted to make themselves a self-perpetuating board. Thus, what difference does it make to the BRH their findings? 2006 was marred with many items and one was the BRH beginning their first year as an independent institution. This also marked the year that NC Baptist elected Brother Milton Hollifield as Executive-Director/Treasurer. Nothing about Brother Hollifield’s election marred 2006, but think about how he felt as he came into his position to find one of our leading agencies has a self-perpetuating board. He has done a fine job dealing with this situation. I would have given into the temptation to explain how a door hits a certain part of the body when you are escorted out of the building. Brother Milton has certainly handled this situation as the Baptist statesman he is. Then, in the 2006 convention, it was argued by those in support of the BRH that we release the 2006 escrowed funds because we would be placing seniors on the street. The argument about seniors losing their homes came from trustees, but also came in a letter from President Stillerman. Then in early 2007 we are told that the BRH does not need the $900k from the BSCNC.

Allow me to wrap this thing up. Is all this wrangling over the direction of the BRH about the future of the BRH or is it about money? Every argument proposed from the BRH’s administration and trustees has been centered around money. We were first told that the need for this relationship was in order to enable the BRH a receive loans from their lenders. These loans were being hindered by the relationship that tied BRH to the BSCNC.  However, in 1994 the BRH trustees changed the charter that would allow them to make themselves an independent agency–something they did in December 2005.  Also, in Generations of Caring: Fifty Years of Service to the Older Adults of North Carolina, BRH’s 2001 self-published history:

Stillerman had not been in the job long when he received a visit from Wayne Duncan, who was then City Executive for First Citizens Bank in Winston-Salem. Duncan said later that he always felt he was making a good loan because it was backed by more than 3,000 Baptist churches in the state as well as the Baptist State Convention.

Thus, we see the loan argument as a smoke screen used to pull at emotions and move away from the NCBSC. When one peruses the Economic Research Institute (ERI) website it is easy to find the form 990′s filed by the BRH. One can see that the trustees approved a $113k raise in 2005 for their president and who knows the amount of 2006 (BRH 2006 990 is not currently available on ERI). However, the BSCNC Executive Committee is informed in January, 2007 the BRH no longer need nearly $1 million. Just 3 months earlier we were told on the convention floor they will probably have to throw seniors out on the street if they cannot pay their bills. We need to accept the report with the amendment that we keep the money already escrowed and allow the BRH to continue in their direction. If this entire issue is about what is right and what is wrong then we need to first rectify this issue by telling the Presidents of the agencies and institutions that they are to have no input into the choosing of trustees. This entire debacle with BRH and the other institutions comes back to the Presidents choosing their own trustees. The BRH was legally stolen from the NCBSC all because we allowed the Presidents the freedom to give a list of names they wanted for trustees. It is the same for the colleges and universities. We need to stop allowing Presidents to choose their trustees. If this is about money, then we need the trustees to give an account as to why they gave a man, already making double the amount of the Executive Director/Treasurer, a six-figure raise.

The convention this year is about money. Those trying to move away from the convention want to retain the money in order to fund their extravagance but they want to make us feel guilty when we question that extravagance. I have to give it to the BRH, they have earned their money the old fashioned way–they had a fox guarding the chicken house and now legally own the barn yard.

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During the October 29, 2007 North Carolina Baptist State Convention Board of Directors meeting, a motion was made to study the feasibility of our various giving plans. Dr. Scott Eanes made a motion to study these various plans with the intent to determine if they are doing what they were designed to do.

The BoD study will be one that studies all of the plans and not just one. In the past we have had study committees to study on Plan C. That committee returned a report that it was retaining churches that would otherwise leave the convention, thus, it was performing with the intent it was established. However, no other plans were studied. We now have a proposal on the floor to study all four plans. Let’s look at these plans and then determine by the results of the plans what is needed. I do see this motion as a positive motion for unity within the BSCNC.

There are still some concerns that I have with this proposal. First, is the concern that 100 people had a chance to decide on this idea instead of 4,000. The motion to study, while it presents a case for unity, is not really an accurate assessment of the desires of NC Baptist. If you want to get a clear understanding of what NC Baptist desire, why not ask the convention to approve the recommendation to study the plans? Second, is my concern with the one appointing the committee. Brother Allan Blume is a great man of God and it is evident that he is being used of God in a marvelous way at Mount Vernon Baptist Church in Boone, NC. He is a wise leader and one that can be trusted in his decisions. However, it would do well for NC Baptist to remember their history concerning the giving plans. The late Dr. Mark Corts was one of our conservative leaders during the conception and gestation period of the birth for these giving plans. Let me be clear, neither Dr. Corts, nor any of our current conservative leaders were in on the conception of the idea for multiple giving plans. He merely did all he could to negotiate a plan that he believed the conservatives of North Carolina could support if the convention approved such a move. There are some conservatives in leadership in our convention that were influential in negotiating these giving plans. As a matter of fact there is rumored to have been a covenant made when Plan D was negotiated that these conservative leaders would not do anything to do away with Plans B & C. Some of these conservative leaders serve on our BoD today. Thus I am observing this study committee with an optimistic, but cautious eye. It will be interesting with what the feasibility study says about Plan B the original negotiated plan and Plan D the last negotiated plan.

**Update** After having conversation with Dr. Steve Hardy, I need to correct something that is presumed. Dr. Hardy and the late Dr. Corts were the only two conservative leaders involved with negotiating giving plans. No one else in leadership within the Conservative Carolina Baptist were involved with the negotiations of the giving plans. Dr. Hardy is planning an article that will give the complete background with the giving plans. When he does so, I will write a post and link to his article. I will trust the leadership of the current Board of Directors of the North Carolina Baptist State Convention as they study these various giving plans.

Now, back to Dr. Scott Eanes. Brother Scott is a dear friend of mine and he called me after the BoD meeting to inform me that he had made the motion. I respect him and am honored that he felt the need to inform me. It speaks highly of his integrity and his desire to keep unity among Brothers. You may think I am just saying this because his motion effectively kept the motion I was planning from being presented at the convention. You would be wrong in that assessment. I respect and honor Brother Scott. He and I are dear friends that trust each other’s word. I am not just blowing smoke and saying all of this with him feeling something opposite. He thinks so highly of me he has honored me with an invitation to be one of a various number of speakers at Fairview Baptist Church’s Revival. That is right, I am the speaker at the 11/7/07 meeting. I think so highly of him in this regard that I led our church to move our Wednesday evening service to this Revival service and my choir is going to be singing that evening. We are looking for a great time of fellowship as we Worship together. So, if you really desire to see Brothers serve together in ministry but have disagreement in denominational life, come on over to Fairview Baptist Church in Statesville. Make certain that you arrive at 7pm as begin a Worship Service that will say to the naysayers, we may not agree on every issue, but we certainly agree on reaching a lost world for Christ.

What do we do now? We go to the convention and we read the study committee report from the Baptist Retirement Homes. As you read this report ask yourself this question. What can $117k purchase for retiree’s on a fixed income? Also, we look at the report on the WMU-NC decisions. Ask yourself this question. What does the move out of the Baptist Building really say the WMU-NC is trying to achieve?

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