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Jerry (Dr. Jerry Vines) Rice

Jerry Rice was one of the best wide receivers in the history of the NFL. When he played past the time that many men would be sidelined, Jerry Rice could still make amazing catches and take it into the end zone for a touch down. Jerry Rice was not only noted for his gentle hands in catching the ball but he was also noted for leaving the end zone dances to the younger up start receivers.

Well, we have our own Jerry Rice in the Southern Baptist Convention–Dr. Jerry Vines. Dr. Vines is no longer calling the plays, but he is still the “go to” guy when we need a statesman’s voice. Dr. Vines delivered such a statement yesterday on his Vines Lines blog.  Dr. Vines responded to Dr. Mohler and really called it what it is–an Elephant in the Room.  Dr. Vines expressed a statesmen like attitude and tone in his OP.  He never spoke down or condescending to Dr. Mohler or about Calvinists.

Dr. Vines expressed his concerns on two levels.  First, Dr. Vines senses that Dr. Mohler doesn’t believe those signing the document are astute enough to see Semi-Pelagianism when we read it.  The second concern Dr. Vines expressed is the different breed of Calvinism that is invading our ranks today.  Dr. Vines expressed that he has no desire and is hesitant to engage in a fight with friends. However, as he said, let the discussion begin.  I encourage you to read Dr. Vines words.

He is growing old and he doesn’t have three of the hairs he once had on top of his head, but the old man can still catch the pass and take it to the end zone. In his retirement years I am praying that he doesn’t accept an invitation to Dancing with the Stars.

Dr. Albert Mohler, President of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, has released a statement concerning the movement of a group of Southern Baptist Pastors.  On May 31, 2012 a statement entitled, “A Statement of the Traditional Southern Baptist Understanding of God’s Plan of Salvation” was released to the public.  This statement was formed by a group of pastors that were concerned the majority of Southern Baptists were not represented well with the term “non-Calvinist”. We desired to positively express our position and begin a convention-wide conversation where our viewpoint would be listened to and affirmed.  As Dr. Eric Hankins said to me in one specific conversation; “if we find out that it is only you and me then we step back acknowledging we are wrong and begging the forgiveness of the convention.”  We desire to have a conversation and see this conversation produce amenable ends that will move forward the Great Commission.

A few observations concerning Dr. Mohler’s statement seem to be in order at this time.  First, Dr. Mohler’s words certainly are music to my ears.  For many years we were told there was nothing to talk about because the BF&M says all we need to say on this issue. Dr. Mohler even states as much in his response when he says;

“This means that every single Southern Baptist should be ready to work gladly with every other Southern Baptist who stands within the Baptist Faith & Message.”

It is this type of response that we are used to.  However, Dr. Mohler goes further than just hinging everything on the BF&M.  He acknowledges our concerns and even affirms our position in expressing these concerns.

Second, Dr. Mohler appears to desire a sit down.  But, whom does he desire to sit down and discuss the differences?  Dr. Patterson? Dr. Moore? Dr. Akin?  This is a group of Pastors that began this movement.  If Dr. Mohler truly desires to sit down and discuss this issue, it needs to take place, at the least, with the pastors whose names are on the document.

Third, Dr. Mohler is very affirmative in his acknowledgment of the rights we posses as individual Baptists to place our convictions on paper.  Thank you Dr. Mohler because we have seen statements from others questioning our motives in placing this before the convention.  You have not questioned our motives and for that I do thank you.

As to my position on Dr. Mohler’s statement, I would affirm him in a positive way.  He truly seems to try and acknowledge our position.  However, it is that very issue that brings a halt in my spirit in his assessment.  I hesitate to heap too many accolades on his statement for three reasons.

First his warning against “theological tribalism”. Read more